January 22, 2008 Experience and Transcendence- Chat archive from my site

[june roca]

JANUARY 22, 2008

9:15am
june roca
june roca
I am glad i visited Jake's blog yesterday, Jake is one f the younger generation member of my other network and he is taking the challenge. He's got a blog at:www.afriendlydalek.blogspot.com
9:18am
june roca
june roca
This blog is about him doing his process of self-forgiveness and breathing awareness. I was reading yesterdays post of him chasing his cat who caught a bird with his mouth in his attempt to take responsibility and his realization
9:21am
june roca
june roca
The message was what is he doing to stop himself from living? He got a message from the dimensions that he needs to stop being a calculator processing information, but become the information or equal to it rather than with it or of it.
9:26am
june roca
june roca
I got a transcendence right there when i read that.I do exactly that. In experimenting this process, i would process information always.
9:29am
june roca
june roca
What the information meant compared to my past experience when i was meditating etc. Well, now that i know that i am one and equal to the information i process, how will i apply that in my daily life
9:31am
june roca
june roca
so while i am typing here, as i am breathing in, pausing, breathing out, pausing, i breath in as the information as me and me as the one typing, 2 beingnesses as one same breath in this moment, i am became one with the information.
9:36am
june roca
june roca
i mean i became one with the information in that moment. The difference is, i am more relaxed, i just let "me" flow and in so doing i am also watching "me" being aware of me.Fascinating.
9:39am
june roca
june roca
Before, i use to type in a blissful mood and i am wanting to transfer that blissful energy to everyone so they get infected with it.
9:40am
june roca
june roca
There is some separation there because of the "transference" from one to another while now it is just me experiencing me at the moment in the silence and rhythm of the breath in that moment.
9:42am
june roca
june roca
Before the transference was inspired by me feeling one with everyone, so i want to give the information to them and the blissful energy within me, but some separation exist in giving.
9:45am
june roca
june roca
My partner last night opened the fridge and pointed out some food that i have not served on the table while he noted it had been there for awhile. I initiated the agreement in the house that there will be no invalidation (making someone wrong).
9:49am
june roca
june roca
I have told him in the past to not do that because i feel invalidated when he does that since i am in charge of the kitchen, i should be left to decide in that matter.
9:50am
june roca
june roca
Anyway, i kept quiet, i wanted to "be right" at that point but i decided to look inside me and see what feelings will arise. I found the thought "why doesn't he listen?". In the silence of my breath, i turned to myself and asked myself
9:55am
june roca
june roca
What don't i listen to? It dawned on me that i don't sometimes listen to him,
10:00am
june roca
june roca
While i am writing this just this moment, thought of doing this self-forgiveness statement: I forgive myself for accepting and allowing myself to not listen to Jaganath and in what he had to say and not treating him as myself, as my equal,
10:03am
june roca
june roca
also for thinking of myself as more awakened than him spiritually. I relase and delete this thought together with other thoughts associated with them
10:06am
june roca
june roca
and the refractions (other thought vibrations awakened by ithem from the past) thereof right here right now, in the past and in the future. So be it, and so it is.
10:08am
june roca
june roca
I feel silence within after that process increased. My breathing became relaxed, my mind clearer and my senses are more aware . I can feel the air i breathe more, the chirping of the birds are more meaningful.
10:14am
june roca
june roca
I can feel the sun's rays as me touching me. Transcendence at this point.

June
www.onenessandequalityaslife.ning.com

[Jake]

Hey June, it is so hard to be the living word. What is the living word?

[mia]

I know what is not the living word. When i open my mouth forced to say something "clever", when i want to tell someone that i can see they are not who they really are in that moment and i try to find "ways" to express so i dont hurt them, when i allow myself to be in my thoughts and i dont actually listen to others so my words are not mine, when i am in fear my words couldnt be the living word.
Even right now i criticize myself, whether i have the right to make statements.
And now self forgivness is needed.
I forgive my self for being in fear.
I forgive myself that i allow myself to be in fear when speaking or writting.
I forgive myself that i allow fear in my life.
I forgive myself that i allow myself to beleive that i am not worthy of a public opinion.
I forgive myself for not allowing myself to express because i fear of what others would think.
I forgive myself for not alowing my self to stand in every moment as one, as all, as equal, as life.
Honestly i did not have the intention to write this post the way i did. It just came out the way it is.
Well guys i guess the solution to write your self to freedom is the most efficient for me right now. It really works. Every time. So...
I just want to thank you all, especially Sunette for her blog and everything else :), and also June because in a way you helped me try to comunicate with everybody here, thank you Jake for your posts and especially the one above lol, and all of you here and on Desteni Universe!!!!!
wow, it's getting out of control- that's a very good thing!
mia

[Sunette]

Hi Mia

Have a look at what I suggested for June with regards to communication below - for perspective to consider when communicating.

Yes, writing is most certainly effective - you will find as you write and apply self forgiveness many 'insights/realisations' of you, you will understand and so assist and support you within your process.

So...when's your blog up? - lol

I'd suggest to also have a look at 'fear of others' judgments' which would cause you to 'judge you' before others' judge you as to so protect yourself from others of what others may/might think/say about you.

Sunette

[Sunette]

Jake - the living word is you as who you are in expression as a word within and as oneness and equality - for instance, living the words: I am joy - living joy as the manifested expression of 'who I am' within and as oneness and equality as life.

We will still be focusing on documents within which we will give perspective of how you're able to assist and support you to live words within and as oneness and equality as the manifested expression of 'who you are'.

Here's a link to a document Osho did within which he gives perspective of the Living Word for you to have a look at:

http://desteni.co.za/Osho/Osho3.htm

Sunette

[june roca]

I got it . I have to be the living word .What is that exactly.So, if i apply that in the situation i was in with my partner, i should just say what's in my mind? However that will be taken by him? Hmmm you got me there. Is there any desteni video or
articles on that? Anyone, help.

[Sunette]

June, a perspective to assist with communication:
When for instance with your partner in conversation - observe yourself in breath, especially when he for instance asks you a question - first breathe, slow down in breath - observe you to ensure that you are clear within you - no thoughts/feelings/emotions - if there are, you in the moment in breath stop them - even if this application takes a moment - it's alright - then, when you're clear within you - then you speak/express you.

So you ensure that you do not speak within and as thoughts/emotions/feelings - but it is you here expressing you in the moment.

Sunette

[Sunette]

Hi June – on the ‘giving principle’ – yes, you’ve got it – there do exist separation in ‘giving’ from the starting point you approached the expression before this process. Because in ‘wanting to give what you experience to others’ – you’re saying that ‘they don’t have it’ and then actually manifest a resistance within the being to ‘who you want to give what you experience to’.

Within and as the principle of oneness and equality – in you ‘sharing you’ in self expression as ‘who you are’ in writing/conversation here – you actually ‘open others’ to realise for themselves that that which you express as you exist within and as them also.

Thus, in you focusing on your self expression in the moment here – in breathing establishing oneness and equality as you and you ‘share you in expression as example’ – it is herein that others start to ‘see themselves’ in you also: One and Equal – which give them then the opportunity to establish their self expression in communication / writing for themselves.

So, June – you focus on you – continue writing/expressing you in words here – that’s it, it is herein that you open and then also others giving themselves the opportunity to ‘open’ and realise themselves: In each one assisting and supporting themselves – they assist and support others as self.

Sunette